Wallbuilders Live! With David Barton & Rick Green

A public honor for Charlie sets the stage for a bigger reckoning: awakening without courage fades, and courage without discipleship burns out. We open with a careful look at contested history—why context matters for Columbus Day, Indigenous heritage, and how easy it is to trade nuance for slogans. Then we lean into a groundswell that’s hard to ignore: young people are flocking to messages that don’t dodge hard topics. They’re finding a way to connect faith with everyday decisions—family, school, work, and yes, the public square.Pastor Rob McCoy joins us to trace a line from the Jesus Movement to today’s moment. Calvary Chapel exploded by teaching scripture clearly and welcoming the disillusioned, but California’s civic reality moved the other way. That gap is the challenge: if discipleship avoids politics, who defends the policies that shape our neighbors’ lives? Rob shares how Charlie treated politics as an on-ramp to the gospel, modeling a style that thinks biblically and speaks plainly. The result is a sur